Joe brought this to the band as a cool atmospheric riff, using double delays and a whole lot of reverb to create a chill tune with soft vocal ideas. The main ideas were pretty much there from the start. We knew we wanted it to get big. We knew we needed harmonies. We knew we wanted vocals to be the focus of the song. Jeff wanted the song to move more, and Joe wanted to keep it chill. We hit a good middle ground by changing progressions halfway through the second chorus, giving the song some movement towards the end. Jeff was never satisfied with the lyrics, and he tried to revise the verses right up until the second we recorded them. But looking back, this song is one of the band’s lyrical favourites.